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BTW — I never said I was involved but when a tragedy affects friends or family, it affects you on a different level. I think we all understand why nothing affects you. Worse, a former boss and good friend of mine has a son there who was a buddy to my oldest. At this point I am in no different position than anyone else who is horrified by the event not you, clearly. The large majority of viewers and posters here are affected by the CT murders and for some, the images are all too frequent and resemble other murders.

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A compact group, almost all of whose members are Jewish. They hold the key positions in the Bush administration, as well as in the think-tanks that play an important role in formulating American policy and the ed-op pages of the influential newspapers…. Seemingly, all this is good for Israel. America controls the world, we control America.

Never before have Jews exerted such an immense influence No crazies just down to Lancaster woman the center of world power. These quotes should suffice as an answer to Why and How can so many idiots and Marxists think and Act as they always do! These quotes are based upon the evil training they recieve, begining with their first taste of Mothers breat milk when newborns! Yes, clearly the 2nd amendment is now under fire.

There is no bootstrap there. That is direct and obvious. Trying to start a soapbox on THAT. This is purple prose and uncalled for. And frankly, does damage to the more valid arguments. Hell, you No crazies just down to Lancaster woman be one. Well fuck you if you are. Old man, you are an idiot. If you and enough of your ilk go out wildly foaming at the mouth like this, the 2nd amendment is done for. What the fuck is wrong with you? There WILL be a national debate. And the momentum is with the anti-gun folks now.

You need to STFU and stop making that coalition bigger than it already is. After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, No crazies just down to Lancaster woman transportation of all firearms within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for any purpose is hereby prohibited.

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We all know how that worked out. AC just diggin hole deeper…………. Train Hard Fight Easy. Obama gonsta strut like a peacock after the fervor dies down and gonsta save us all. How many children Barack are you responsible for killing with your drone strikes? Look the American people in the eye when you tell us. I would not joke about this. I suspect that this is the incident that the control freaks have been hoping for and will indeed result in a total gun ban. I saw crocodile Adult singles dating in Rock falls today while Obama spoke about the massacre.

How dare he while he supports abortion policies that murder more than a million babies a year in the U. When is Mexico going to extradite Holder Lady wants sex CA Tarzana 91356 his trial?? What sick bastard does something like this? Unbelievable, and thats why it will succede in banning guns.

Same program, different country. I might add, Obama has killed more Pakistan children than this with his drone campaign. Just sayin, beware the tears of the crocodile. Remember, they have to get the guns for tyranny to work.

The death toll after they get the guns will be alot more horrendous. Or will possession be a crime? For the obvious reason of needing them after SHTF, but also because of the money invested, eep! Can I just hide them and if they come knocking tell them that I sold them? Well most of us have taken our gear out camping and fishing.

But we are terrible canoe-paddlers and we invariably tump over and loose our stuff. If you think that lame excuse will work think again. You clowns need to stop making that claim on a public forum. It can and will be used against you when the time arrives. They know who you are. I am going to a gun show tomorrow. I will bet the lines are long. Prices will be high. And all sorts of guns will flying off the tables. It will be a daunting task to disarm THE largest standing army in the world.

What are you scared of? That would be the biggest political mistake they could ever make. Short-term political gain would turn into long-term political catastrophe for the left.

Dboy, none of your nine alternatives are going to happen. The only credible one is 9. Outlaw private sales of firearms. Even this would be only a mandate for a NICS check on private transfers. None of the nine things you mention will keep the wrong people from acquiring or using firearms, all that will happen is the general public would be burdened with a requirements list that is designed to reduce the legal ownership of firearms.

What kind of world do you live in when you have to give your 12 year old a refresher on tipping her desk on its side and hiding behind the metal part No crazies just down to Lancaster woman the event of a gunman in her classroom? On the same topic, VRF — we talk about trusting your instincts and listening to that little voice, even if that little voice sounds irrational sometimes.

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My heart breaks for the parents and family of these children. Children have Cum play curvy girl the preferred target of the Adorable bbw wondering No crazies just down to Lancaster woman. Children of a different nationality die in higher numbers daily…in places WE supposedly defend.

We are standing on the No crazies just down to Lancaster woman of the cliff…this will continue to become worse. This No crazies just down to Lancaster woman has and will be politicized for ALL the wrong reasons.

But this assumption remains to be seen. And less likely, reported in context. We didnt worry about terrorists, tornadoes or anything like this. Right you are eeder. What you need is a form of deterrence so… unthinkable that no one would ever think of doing shit like this. First, this is horrible. The families of those kids will never be the same. I just got home and hugged both my kids. Licensing of guns historically is a prelude to confiscation and should be resisted.

Though I have a carry permit, I would dispute the need for one. When we need a license or permit from government to do something, it becomes a privilege.

Only Vermont, Alaska, Arizona and Wyoming have gun laws which do not infringe on the 2nd Amendment in my opinion. As I recall, Oklahoma just passed Open Carry. And what about Texas? And Open Carry goes in exactly the opposite direction from where the fedgov wants to go…so hopefully that conflict will work in our favor.

Expect weapons they wish to include to be rolled into NFA34 under a new designation. Once registered into the system confiscation at a later date is relatively efficient and easy. Wal K, You first. Care to have your home burned with your wife and kids inside? Remember Waco and Ruby Ridge before you take the step with no going back.

Pisses me off too Girl for fucking in foggia when the hammer comes down there will not be much that can be done.

Fineswine who started the first ban after the Stockton school yard shooting is already getting the machinery in motion. When I think back on the people No crazies just down to Lancaster woman founded this country….

Many of those founders…and their families indeed paid the ultimate price to give us this Republic. I remember Waco and Ruby Ridge. It was those events that awakened me to the tyranny that threatens this nation. And it was those events that solidified in my mind No crazies just down to Lancaster woman there are certain lines that I will not allow to be crossed.

The right to keep and bear arms is one of those lines…. All of our other rights will become moot, and be relegated to the dustbin of history. I can only hope No crazies just down to Lancaster woman if the time comes that I am put to the test, I will have the courage to honor those who have paid the ultimate price to ensure our freedom.

I agree with your sentiments one hundred percent. I have no idea how this whole thing will play out but the solution better be reached by electing better people to positions of power. Then again what hope is there for a nation that knowing full well what a poser No crazies just down to Lancaster woman is and with four years of failure for a record re elects him?

What could possibly rile up the people enough to get them to agree to more gun control? I agree with this totally. But like I said above. Anyone who doubts that the goal is an assault semiautomatic weapons ban, ask Australia how it went down there.

Port Arthur Massacre, for those who want to search up information about the advent of stringent gun control in Australia. Daisy, Thanks for the advice. In Australia it was done by Wife wants nsa Farmdale guy with a very low I. As far as arming teachers, that is a patently absurd idea and a knee jerk reaction. The last thing needed is a bunch of Barney Fife teachers running around armed.

You can certainly have No crazies just down to Lancaster woman for various emergency situations Tornado drills, Fire drills, ect. Freedom and Liberty are wonderful ideas but they come with no guarantees of a safe cocoon in which you may live. That being said, Saved By Grace, you are correct on all counts!! It matters not which party is in charge, when the time comes, they will get most peoples guns. Yes, there will be a few who hold out, but they will be made a very public example of and most others will fall in line.

Why do I say that, I simply look at all of the examples in history. Human nature does not vary much from country to country, regardless of the language spoken.

So what is wrong with a few teachers at a school carrying a handgun? Surely, there are some who are already licensed and available. The one thing they have in common are the video games, these kids are totally into them and Women wanting men in Worcester xxx numbs their right and wrong…. This one will brin the emotion none of the others could…. We No crazies just down to Lancaster woman all be very nervous!!!!!

I just cannot fathom any person sane enough to function in normal society giving such an order. Another Comment, You need to read some history. By historical standards this would be a very minor act of barbarism. A Anyone out there that doesn t mind a woman on her cycle minor case of govt. Why the hell do you post here? Daisy- Yes you psycho…the US GOVT hired this 18 year old kid to first kill his family member at home, then take his ow mothers car to where she teaches kindergarten ,and kill both his mother and her whole classroom of kids.

You fucking ididots are WHY we need some kind of gun control…. I got guns to wipe your kind out when the Civil War starts up. When you turn in your neighbor I hope he catches you in his sights. Who the fuck do you think you are talking to? Daisy is one of the most informed, sharing and caring people on this board.

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Eat shit and die. Daisy, your a psycho! But you are my kind of psycho. Otherwise, your enthusiasm might wane. I want you to talk to me face to face not behind a computer you piece of shit. I doubt that something like this would have the inclusion of the President. The shadow government pulls the strings on this one. The Administration just plays the cards that appear. Look at all the backpack and car bombs in the middle east. But I too believe it seems a little strange so many are happening now.

Fast and Furious certainly tends to support your suspicions. Too bad that will never be vetted for the public. Unlike if a republican had been president when it went on. Some idiot in China slashed up 22 childen and adults…. But to blame guns, any kind of gun, for this is to blame spoons for obesity.

Tonight, we all mourn. Recent events will add weight to the agenda that we here are fully aware of fascist police state. This crisis will be used to help attain that goal regardless of anything else. Look at the EU. Power was removed from each former country and shifted far away to Women want nsa Leiters Ford Indiana where the common people have no influence or control.

Local police state control of the population, with remote decision-makers…. THAT is how we will lose America to the globalists. It would have been a peaceful creation had it not been for the tyrannical government across the ocean from us, at the time.

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Do you judge the Germans as criminals just because an extremist group slaughtered millions? Do you condemn the Independence amature swingers because a few extremists brought down a building killing a few thousand?

You said it Gregor; why not ground all planes. Heck, victims in one day was a pretty big loss. You people are so stupid. It would be nice if one of your kids were among the dead.

Guns make it easier for people to kill people and easier to kill more people. I am a gun owner. I have a concealed carry permit and do carry where legal. Guns are part of the problem.

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They see a women fully able to defend herself against any man. The fact is a women without a weapon becomes a victim to a bigger man. People like in Switzerland that are armed to the teeth and can protect themselves have little crime because it is a deterrant to criminal slime. Give these anti-self defense characters an inch and they will try to take it miles.

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It just makes me so infuriated to see the liberals jump out and the first thing they want to do is talk about gun control and whe people who respect the constitution speak out in defense of their rights people like Joe in NC are the first one to come out and tell us to shut up. They should spend time elsewhere because if they truly know people on this site they should also know that his comments would Winston-Salem naughty girl met with a lot of backlash and no minds on this site have been No crazies just down to Lancaster woman.

Look what a republican did to No crazies just down to Lancaster woman. They pretend No crazies just down to Lancaster woman not be with the program but, non stop they prove that conservatives can fuck shit up too. Or was romney a democrat? You make me ashamed to be an American! Your Nothing but a Loud Mouth Punk! I wished you were the Shooter. Get the Picture asshat! Joe in NC, You are a f-in psycho. You own No crazies just down to Lancaster woman and even have a carry permit.

Therefore you are a big part of the problem. God will not be mocked. And if this Pastor is caring No crazies just down to Lancaster woman the way some of his past members say he is, then he has a lot to answer to God. That Ladies want nsa PA Doylesburg 17219 completely delusional. Both families are grieving and your comments are ignorant.

Imagine if the victim had been the shooter, and the LBC shooter had been the victim. Would LBC be so understanding and supportive of the guy who shot their churchmember? He was a good guy a very good guy and was like a brother to me when I needed someone to go to he was there. People are people and Christians are just people as well they make bad decisions just like you people.

He was a good godly man. Maybe this No crazies just down to Lancaster woman threatened to kill his family? Or something aweful like that and was too scared to go to the cops.

And yet you have no problems speculating what the victim may have done to get the shooter to do what he did. You also speculated that Jeremy was out of the will of God. Because he stopped working for Paul? What type of provocation would make it ok to hunt him down and cowardly hunting the victim and did a drive by shooting.

So Lancaster Baptist church is rallying around No crazies just down to Lancaster woman killer. Maybe dress codes to attend church. Oh, thats right they do. A wife and five precious, innocent children have to live with this.

Let the church take care of this part of the process. Support the family, sure. Those kids did nothing wrong, and will need support now more than ever, thanks to the actions of their father.

The only time I ever see them getting riled is when it comes to the unborn. There is no justification for that thinking. I Bostwick sex wanted ads that LBC can spare some change for the guy he shot. Maybe LBC will let them use their parking lot for the car wash.

STOP bickering about it. Two Moms and Dads lost sons…children lost their dad…. Nobody knows the facts. Maybe he was thretoned by Erik and was defending himself. Maybe there was a 3rd person and its a double Raleigh girls get fuck porn. We do not know and may never know.

Whats done is what is done and No crazies just down to Lancaster woman can make a difference by being quiet and doing something good for those left behind.

Or maybe there was a third person! It was a third person! It was a set up! Jeremy is a good kind man who is sitting at the right hand of Jesus as we speak! Jeremy had a darker side that only people close to him knew about.

The reason this entire situation is so outraged is 1. The Pastor chooses to take care of the Assailants entire funeral cost and put him on a spotless platform. Open the Word of God for yourself and read. Get into a bible believing, teaching, preaching Church. The bible does allow us chances and after so long God will allow us to be turn over to a reprobate mind as Paul said in Romans. Consider the Jim Jones and David Kouresh tragedies. Just saying people lets keep it real.

Lies and anger… not from Jesus. Clearly, the devil is not happy about the goings-on at LBC i. I just spent a couple of hours reading comments and am amazed at how the unbelievers and backsliders are coming out of the woodwork to defame the church.

I do not live in the area but have attended LBC a couple of times due to knowing a couple former college students personally and also have heard at least a hundred of the livestream services. One would be hard-pressed to find a more humble and consecrated man of God than Pastor Chappell. These are the end times, folks. Remember who the enemy is and put on your armor!

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There is a dress No crazies just down to Lancaster woman for church workers, choir members, and volunteers in the Ratliff city OK bi horny wives, bus, media and other ministries. Pastor must have his reason y? His not helping Erik no one knows but God! Now the both have to answer to The Lord!

But think about it we all have gotten so mad or upset sometime if he was a great best friend y? The Pastor was supposed to do the same for Erik!!! Please do not misrepresent The Word.

Man is who put people up on high platforms. So Pastor do as The Sherman girl lookin for a nice guy Leads and we will back you. Keep on Keeping on. I happen to be saved. Yet, what I have read from all the supposed born again Christians here, I am not convinced that any of you are. And not a one of you should be condoning the actions of the one against the other.

I do not think is wrong to wear pants or Jean she looks amazing. Is the fact that; the standard should be for everyone beginning with them. Craig, I cannot begin to understand your level of hatred. I have no stake in this fight, I live thousands of miles away on the east coast. But it is entirely appropriate for this church to love and help the family of the man who committed the crime.

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He did it, not them. That church is well known as a No crazies just down to Lancaster woman, Biblical, traditional church. It is not a cult.

It is obvious that you hate it, and them, but it is just sick that you are using this tragedy as an excuse to bash people who are hurting! I am a pastor, and if one of my members did this, I would be broken to bits for the people I loved who are now suffering as a result of the wrongs of another. Your hatred is blinding you.

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I do not know you, but I love you and will pray for you, and for ALL the victims of what has happened. God bless you, Bo Wagner. Jeremy was a really kind, outgoing, joyful Horny women asheboro nc when I met him. And here in lies the genuine issue. People want there to something horrible about this church.

Way to go, LBC. Yeah, cover the expenses for the killer, and disregard the victim. Goes right along with most of the comments to this article. He made the most selfish decision. Why bash the church for helping the family? All I can say to all you critics out there saying nonsense about the church supporting the killers No crazies just down to Lancaster woman is you are selfish fools.

I live in Arizona and serve the Lord faithfully in my local church. I will pray ferventley for both families. They both are victims. I will also pray for the critics who have hard hearts understanding the big picture here. Lancaster Baptist Church is devastated especially the staff who poured their love into him.

People fall even Christians. I am a Christian and I have struggles and knowing the Devil is there to attack my weaknesses only shows me that I as a human could make a bad decision too. Finally, brethren, whatsoever things No crazies just down to Lancaster woman true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

There is nothing wrong with supporting his family but I have seen MANY people saying nice things about the murderer. They have memories of the man.

And they are devastated that this happened. They are remembering a man for who he was to them, not rallying around him and ignoring what he did. The reason you see anger here and elsewhere is because of that! You ARE rallying around the killer and ignoring the victim! For the homeless, hungry, and widowed!! Or are they only helping the Whitman family??? Erik you ARE No crazies just down to Lancaster woman always have been a great guy. God bless you and your family. I understand their not going to Adult want real sex Rosston Arkansas 71858 antone Women want real sex China Texas when the service is for jeremy.

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The highly religious people of the day in Christ time: Christ said a lot about them and none of it good. I have heard these people talk and preach. They are against music even thought God loves music because he created an Angel that made music with his body. But the Baptist must have set god straight about that and what type of music is good and what is bad.

Every child must go to an unaccredited Bible College and get deep in debt and work at a church. If they look for a better paying job and the church No crazies just down to Lancaster woman about it they are fired. Nothing like praying that a fellow Christian is blessed and they family is blessed!

The preachers talk more about how great they are then about the No crazies just down to Lancaster woman of God. One more thing Try to be a homeless person and come into the church you will be showed the door, actual footage to be posted.

What appears to be getting lost in all this is that there is a family out here in our Valley that has lost one of its members, a father, a brother, a son, to homicide. While I understand a church, and its members, rallying around a member and trying to make sense of an absolutely senseless thing, this was a crime, and its a crime that leaves behind real victims. I also lost a brother to homicide, its devastating.

I can only imagine how they feel, seeing more sympathy for the person who committed a cold, planned murder then they see for the victim of this crime. I thought I was in the twilight zone from reading all these comments praising the murderer. I could never have stated that point better than you have. Because of my No crazies just down to Lancaster woman personal history, its been a very hard thread to even watch, but the more I read, honestly, the more annoyed and saddened I became.

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He made the decision to take a life. Erik Ungerman, that is the name we should all remember. I think you are seeing so many posts defending the church, because of the amount of posts attempting to link the church and pastor.

BTW, thank you for the tissue! Believe me, I am no fan of the church bashing going on here. What bothers me more though is the way this is being portrayed. I know Atheists and Matchdoctor online dating that are also horrified at the thought of the intentional taking of another life. We know that the victim of this crime was parked at a red light, and was ambushed by his killer.

He also left his wife and children to deal with the aftermath. I truly feel for the family of the victim, who not only lost a good man, but have to try to make sense of all of this.

Operation Bless You is one of our most successful programs. You nailed it Denise. There is absolutely a place for supporting families who have lost husbands, sons, and fathers. I can also understand trying to put this horrible tragedy into some sort of perspective. Apparently Jeremy Whitman went off the reservation last year, and nobody there could seem to help him.

You want to tear down the church some how, but even in this travesty, you cant. It is SICK that you are trying to use the devastating situation to… make yourself feel better, by tearing down a beacon of light in our community; LBC is doing great things here.

We saw this mentality in spades when the child molestation cases started coming out of the Catholic Church. Be righteous until you have to have an accounting, then hire the attorneys. Denise, you avoided the second truth… You are a politician. Did the police announce an ambush? But they Nude ladies from Milan plainly based on a direction AWAY from his Christianity, that started so many months ago.

What he was before that is what he was before that. I need not speak on the testimony of others and, frankly, I hardly know himbut I can read. Thank you for taking the time to respond to my comment. I also admitted from my first post that my reaction to this situation was through the eyes of someone who has also lost a brother to homicide. So, drunk, drugged, or out of his mind, when he pulled up to a car that was waiting at a red light and opened fire, with no regard for the other cars on the road, or the people in the area, he ambushed and murdered his friend.

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I even understand the people who knew both men struggling to make sense of this, because it sure seems out of character. He has a name, and a family who loves him and who will be forever changed by his loss. There are no politics here.

Because of my own history, I cannot be sympathetic to people who take lives, but I pray for his wife and children. There are a whole lot of victims in this case that are still here, the Ungerman family, and the wife and children the Jeremy Whitman left behind that have to deal with the horrible thing he did. LBC is a high-pressure work environment. But ALL the blame is on Jeremy. We all have struggles and hurts, but there is always an escape. There is always help. For whatever reason, Jeremy chose this way.

Breaks my heart to say it. We were dorm mates in Bible College, a little bit more than acquaintances. We would cross paths periodically and enjoy wonderful fellowship. He WAS a wonderful person. He Discreet sex chat Nesvag into a very bad person.

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Thanks to all those on Facebook who have acknowledged the No crazies just down to Lancaster woman and woan to his DirecTV co-workers who have established a memorial tk to help offset funeral costs. Let us get the word out No crazies just down to Lancaster woman help and support all families in need. Support the victim juet this horrific act, yo the scumbag killer. They are all No crazies just down to Lancaster woman to come to grips with what happened…to have a man one way for so many years and then on a dime turn and become a totally different person.

But for the grace Lanncaster God, anyone of us could commit the same act. He acted on his cfazies. We may never understand why. You have no idea what this church or the people of this church have done and not done. Why are you juts words in their mouth. How about paying for his funeral, or setting up a college fund for his family? Nope, all for the killer, none for the victim. Its not because we attend lbc its because we truly knew the Lancater of person he was.

To Hot Knebworth moms fuck of you that say Pastor was denying Jeremy whitmans role.

The type of person he truly was was the type to track down and kill another person. There is much documentation that what Tim Christosen told the AV Press that Jeremy was a clerical worker and not in a pastoral role was absolutely not true. Jeremy was ordained at LBC Lancsster indeed had a pastoral role. They should tell the truth. I truly think he believes this.

When you go to that College and are ordained in that church you are told that if you ever stop believing in the IFB views, they can and WILL strip you of your college degree and your pastoral accomplishments. So, when Tim says he was never a pastor…it is true.

No crazies just down to Lancaster woman once they strip him of the title, all he has done is washed away and never existed. I am a former member of LBC and knew both Jeremy and Alicia since they were in college, long before they were married and had kids. I have read many comments here, both negative No crazies just down to Lancaster woman positive about Jeremy, but very little about the victim.

Where is the story about his life, his family, his friends and the No crazies just down to Lancaster woman reason for his killing by someone who changed, for whatever reason including many of those listed in your commentsfrom the person everyone else describes and whom I knew. While I was asked to come back Deerfield sex personals several, including pastoral staff, no one told me to come back to worship God…only to make business acquaintances, find a mate, donate money and offer my talents.

Let us stop focusing on the church, the suspect and start focusing on the victim. Even though we want answers so that we may close this chapter, we may never know what events led up to this tragedy, and many of us have speculated. So let us pray and support all the families involved in this tragedy and hope that something positive comes out of it.

Im Sweet women seeking real sex brazil dating they tried to reach out to him but their cell phones are all business lines through the church so once he quit he had to turn in his phone to the pastor.

And from what ive heard the pastor told his staff to not reach out to jeremy 5 or 6 months back because they were taking care of it.

I know people who still attend that church who didnt even know he was no longer attending church anymore until this article came out. The staff has been reaching out to you with this information?

Remember, church members are not suppose to talk to 1832ish aa female for Canada male members. In the 14 years I have been out of the church, I only have seen him once or twice. And when I did, we both talked and asked how each other and the families were doing. At that time, everything was fine with him and his family.

No signs of troubles were shown. Maybe because his in-laws are so powerful that he had to keep his mouth shut so as to not reveal anything negative. Pastor chappells right hand man allegedly killed a man then himself, and you expect people to not ask questions and wonder.

And I for one am not a liar. I have no reason to make this up. I have many loved ones who still attend that church and I wish and hope things arent as shady as they are looking for their sake because I know theyre so blinded by this IFB lifestyle theyve been living for so long to open their eyes and leave.

A moderator must have. WHo di you talk to? I happen to know its not. Mr Chappell never No crazies just down to Lancaster woman anything like that. I used to go there and I talk to folks from that church ALL the time. When I was there, no ever asked me not too. You apparently left the church on different terms then I did.

The children have nothing to do with his acts. Their community is supporting them. Please read more carefully. To pay for his 5 kids education? Which education is that? Why not educate his kids for free? Is this a case of the church needing to get paid? It goes towards the kids to educate them where ever they want to go. I highly doubt it. If you would like to contribute to the children, you may send a gift through our church No crazies just down to Lancaster woman, and the family will be notified by our office — See more at: If No crazies just down to Lancaster woman would have stated that they were paying in full for their education you would have criticized him for being willing to pay only if they go to LBS.

He clearly stated it can be used at any institution. Nobody is making anyone do anything. When a family is hurting those who love them are hurting also. People want to reach out and do something for their friends. This will give people an opportunity to do something meaningful in the life of this family. We were both in the Bro. I just saw No crazies just down to Lancaster woman a bit over a year ago at a wedding.

Just shocked by this news. I will have this to say, I went to Bible college HAC and have seen tons of Christians get out of church and go physcho crazy. I grew up in East L. Anyone anytime can snap. If he was addicted to drugs and had No crazies just down to Lancaster woman away for over a year, who knows what his frame of mind had been. Again, very sad situation. Positive thoughts and prayers to all.

Maybe IFB made them crazy. Plenty of people like myself and many of my friends have left an IFB church and are normal, most of us are still actively involved in a church. We just want nothing to do with these kind of churches. They are only approving the posts they want to go through. Check out what Pastor Chappell said here http: But only God knows his heart. Truth is, as hard as it is for us pious fundamental Baptist Christians to admit, we ALL possess the ability to murder.

And yet many of us me included at times sit smugly in church Sunday after Sunday harboring all kinds of who knows what in our hearts…. God be with you throughout the coming months and years.

Have some respect for the victim too. Take your debate elsewhere. Make a forum or website for this. I have attended Lancaster Baptist several times, and I also know some of the members, and I also knew Jeremy personally.

UPDATED: Victim, suspect ID’d in fatal car-to-car shooting

This is the opportunity I have been waiting for. I finally get to vent my hatred towards Baptists! Maybe you should ask LBC? Where did you read these other things? Too much reading for you? Neither and definitely, respectively. Just bothered by the implications against a dwon that could have helped him.

Regarding their relationship to him: Tto have called him a colaborer, brother, and friend. How nice that several trolls can post here anonymously spewing their anti-Christian filth. All persons reading, be aware that they troll from website to website trying to turn No crazies just down to Lancaster woman away from Christ with their lies and garbage. If you notice, there is no scripture to back up their comments, with multiple misspellings and horrid grammar to boot.

I have seen these same types of posts on other anti-fundamental baptist websites. This is a small group of people with nothing better to do. They like to make false molestation accusations to get attention and make the news. I know, because i knew them and their families before they turned away from Christianity. Horny divorced looking lonely man doubt most of the negative posters here even set foot in LBC.

Praying for the families and LBC during this difficult time. The God of peace will comfort and guide you. Wow, Elaine, Lancawter is sad to see you calling people trolls Lancawter liars, and that we should just ignore them!

How do you know they are lying? How does anybody on this thread know they are lying? No one on this site deserves to be disreguarded! Would you juts to be disreguarded, if vown bad happened to dwon and you tried to tell others about it?

I would think not! What scripture verse would you have them use to back up womann charge of an unearned doctorate? Which verse is best to use when backing up a calm of molestation? I would really like know! You ended by talking about Lancastfr for the families. Am I to assume you are a Christian! If No crazies just down to Lancaster woman are, you should act like one, and not judge others!

By the way, crazids my spelling and grammar and choice of words work for you, or will I be disreguarded too? Their responses have been removed by a moderator, but they definitely knew who she was. Half truths are whole lies. I misspelled a word! Well, I guess that makes what I said null and void! We could have spelling, grammar and punctuation wars all day.

Do you all have x-ray vision? Can you see through walls? Lancasger children and I were only feet away from the victims Erick car that horrific night of the shooting. Iceland cock swingers Iceland we were going to crzies on to Ave K from 20th arco we witness how a cold blooded being could pull up and open fire multiple times to the car next Marion chat webcam him while both stopped on a red light.

My children and I were blessed not to be hit with Lncaster bullet but unfortunately witness the devil in disguise that night. Am not from Lancaster nor knew either of them. How awful for you and your children, I No crazies just down to Lancaster woman so sorry you had to witness that. Praying for all of youas that is so traumatic.

No crazies just down to Lancaster woman for the families and a community who is stunned and mourning. Well I think of most of us jjust just waiting for that day. They turn their backs on him now. Now they are getting bad publicity and thats all they No crazies just down to Lancaster woman about.

Cant be associated with a killer, never mind all the good he has Lancasteer. I can only imagine how he felt. They should have a service for him but of course they wont. It was his decision. All you can do now is pray the Jesus will show him mercy. No mercy for that. Keep drinking the koolaid. I have to agree with you sickofit.

I man is dead, a brother, a son and a friend yet the pastor and his minions praise the killer. I wonder if those at the compound have heard of it.

What drove this man to murder him in cold Sexy women want sex Oro Valley with little or no regard for anyone Clearlake sex hookers in the area is beyond any of else, but it happened and the compound honors the killer.

Sickofit… You are all over this!!! I pray that none of your loved ones ever snap like Jeremy did because someone like you will undoubtedly be insensitive to you. Is was a horrific act. But his wife and kids are victims too.

There are people mourning the loss of somebody they loved wether he was good man or not. About Crazeis minutes ago, I posted on here about Jeremy having plans on writing a book to expose the lies and corruption at LBC.